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		<title>By: jgabree</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgabree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will you not do for your country?

Now that the nation&#039;s hospitals have offered to give up $155 billion in future Medicare and Medicaid payments and America’s largest private health care insurers say they&#039;ll give back as much as $2 trillion by reducing the growth rate of health care spending by 1.5% per year during the next decade, all to help defray the cost of President Barack Obama&#039;s health care plan, I&#039;ve decided the least I can do as an average citizen is not to opt for expensive elective surgery during the same period.

Between now and 2020, therefore, I pledge not to get hair transplants ($10,000), Invisalign braces ($5,000), a neck and profile lift ($5,300), calf implants ($4,500) or buttock augmentations ($18,000 -- I know that sounds expensive, but I&#039;m giving up a trip to Brazil), rhinoplasty ($5,500), otoplasty (as you age, your ears just get bigger and bigger -- $2,800 each or $5,600), and liposuction (hips -- $2,400; outer thighs -- $3,000; buttocks -- $1,800); plus non-surgical fees (figure $128,000 spread out over all these procedures), for a grand total of $189,100.

Doesn&#039;t sound like much compared to the billions and trillions being donated by the hospitals and insurance companies, but if even 1% of 300 million Americans make the same contribution I am, we will save $567,300,000,000, and be happy to do it.

Actually, I&#039;m even willing not to have these procedures every year, increasing the savings ten fold!

So, my fellow Americans, the challenge is this: ask not what your country cannot do for you, ask what you can not do for your country.</description>
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<p>Now that the nation's hospitals have offered to give up $155 billion in future Medicare and Medicaid payments and America’s largest private health care insurers say they'll give back as much as $2 trillion by reducing the growth rate of health care spending by 1.5% per year during the next decade, all to help defray the cost of President Barack Obama's health care plan, I've decided the least I can do as an average citizen is not to opt for expensive elective surgery during the same period.</p>
<p>Between now and 2020, therefore, I pledge not to get hair transplants ($10,000), Invisalign braces ($5,000), a neck and profile lift ($5,300), calf implants ($4,500) or buttock augmentations ($18,000 -- I know that sounds expensive, but I'm giving up a trip to Brazil), rhinoplasty ($5,500), otoplasty (as you age, your ears just get bigger and bigger -- $2,800 each or $5,600), and liposuction (hips -- $2,400; outer thighs -- $3,000; buttocks -- $1,800); plus non-surgical fees (figure $128,000 spread out over all these procedures), for a grand total of $189,100.</p>
<p>Doesn't sound like much compared to the billions and trillions being donated by the hospitals and insurance companies, but if even 1% of 300 million Americans make the same contribution I am, we will save $567,300,000,000, and be happy to do it.</p>
<p>Actually, I'm even willing not to have these procedures every year, increasing the savings ten fold!</p>
<p>So, my fellow Americans, the challenge is this: ask not what your country cannot do for you, ask what you can not do for your country.</p>
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		<title>By: dar ishmael</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Greg, will you be excluded from live interview on Wisconsin Public Radio until you&#039;ve a new book going to press?


2) Where&#039;s the T-shirt / bumper sticker that reads: 

&quot;Best Democracy Money Can Buy / The Obama Chapters&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Greg, will you be excluded from live interview on Wisconsin Public Radio until you've a new book going to press?</p>
<p>2) Where's the T-shirt / bumper sticker that reads: </p>
<p>"Best Democracy Money Can Buy / The Obama Chapters" ?</p>
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		<title>By: Curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do a little investigation you&#039;ll find that Tom Daschle&#039;s law office is three floors down from the PhRMA offices in Washington.  And Sen. Daschle seems to have the President&#039;s ear on the healthcare debate.  So, if I follow the logic correctly, the Senator eases up the back stairs and has a little pow wow with Billy Tauzin at PhRMA, creeps back down the stairs, walks out the front door and gets into his limo and heads to the White House.  You think he took Billy&#039;s deal to Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do a little investigation you'll find that Tom Daschle's law office is three floors down from the PhRMA offices in Washington.  And Sen. Daschle seems to have the President's ear on the healthcare debate.  So, if I follow the logic correctly, the Senator eases up the back stairs and has a little pow wow with Billy Tauzin at PhRMA, creeps back down the stairs, walks out the front door and gets into his limo and heads to the White House.  You think he took Billy's deal to Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: dermokrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>dermokrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, so obama&#039;s a corporate stooge. hey palast, sounds like you owe ralph nader an apology. tell your homegirl randi rhodes to pass it on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, so obama's a corporate stooge. hey palast, sounds like you owe ralph nader an apology. tell your homegirl randi rhodes to pass it on...</p>
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		<title>By: dermokrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>dermokrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, so obama is a corporate stooge. hey palast, sounds like you owe ralph nader an apology. tell randi rhodes to pass it on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, so obama is a corporate stooge. hey palast, sounds like you owe ralph nader an apology. tell randi rhodes to pass it on...</p>
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		<title>By: tomkennyjapan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work, as usual, Greg.

I wonder if anyone else caught the &quot;paid-for-by-big-Pharma&quot; advertisement weaseled into this comment thread, posted by Max Entropy. It bears reprinting: 
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&quot;Drug lords robbing us blind.&quot;
WTF?
The &quot;drug lords&quot; spend hundreds of millions of their own dollars researching and testing pharmaceuticals that save or improve the lives of billions of people and they are demonized? Many of the drugs that they develop don&#039;t work and they lose money on them... their money, not yours. I&#039;d hope that the risks that these companies take would be rewarded and their contributions to the well-being of humanity appreciated but apparently it&#039;s not to be so from you and your ilk.
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Nice try, Max. Pharmaceutical companies take risks not in the name of &quot;the well-being of humanity,&quot; but in the name of profit. If they lose money sometimes, that&#039;s the chance ya take in the game of capitalism.

The figure &quot;hundreds of millions&quot; is inflated, as noted in this NTTimes article: http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/health/042300hth-drugs.html

Let&#039;s also not forget that our tax money funds research for medical cures that are then handed over to the Pharma companies so that we can pay for them again when we buy the drug.

Furthermore, how about those clinical trials paid for by drug companies? http://agonist.org/20060303/drug_industry_human_testing_masks_death_injury_compliant_fda

Finally, it should be pointed out that, despite the industry&#039;s claim to the contrary, pharmacy companies spend twice the amount of money on sales &amp; marketing of their product than they do on research and development.
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050001#top

With these points in mind, I would be careful not to paint a picture of US drug companies as White Knights on a hilltop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work, as usual, Greg.</p>
<p>I wonder if anyone else caught the "paid-for-by-big-Pharma" advertisement weaseled into this comment thread, posted by Max Entropy. It bears reprinting:<br />
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"Drug lords robbing us blind."<br />
WTF?<br />
The "drug lords" spend hundreds of millions of their own dollars researching and testing pharmaceuticals that save or improve the lives of billions of people and they are demonized? Many of the drugs that they develop don't work and they lose money on them... their money, not yours. I'd hope that the risks that these companies take would be rewarded and their contributions to the well-being of humanity appreciated but apparently it's not to be so from you and your ilk.<br />
#############################################<br />
Nice try, Max. Pharmaceutical companies take risks not in the name of "the well-being of humanity," but in the name of profit. If they lose money sometimes, that's the chance ya take in the game of capitalism.</p>
<p>The figure "hundreds of millions" is inflated, as noted in this NTTimes article: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/health/042300hth-drugs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/health/042300hth-drugs.html</a></p>
<p>Let's also not forget that our tax money funds research for medical cures that are then handed over to the Pharma companies so that we can pay for them again when we buy the drug.</p>
<p>Furthermore, how about those clinical trials paid for by drug companies? <a href="http://agonist.org/20060303/drug_industry_human_testing_masks_death_injury_compliant_fda" rel="nofollow">http://agonist.org/20060303/drug_industry_human_testing_masks_death_injury_compliant_fda</a></p>
<p>Finally, it should be pointed out that, despite the industry's claim to the contrary, pharmacy companies spend twice the amount of money on sales &amp; marketing of their product than they do on research and development.<br />
<a href="http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050001#top" rel="nofollow">http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050001#top</a></p>
<p>With these points in mind, I would be careful not to paint a picture of US drug companies as White Knights on a hilltop.</p>
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		<title>By: Resolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easily resolved.  We the People need to request passage of a bill that makes ALL lobbying illegal. Lobbying has been the downfall of our government, and will be the death.  If we remove corporate voice, we will regain our country.

Let us band together, start this bill, and save our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easily resolved.  We the People need to request passage of a bill that makes ALL lobbying illegal. Lobbying has been the downfall of our government, and will be the death.  If we remove corporate voice, we will regain our country.</p>
<p>Let us band together, start this bill, and save our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honey, you missed something: Obama &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; get his quid pro quo.

He got Big Pharma to agree to spend $150 million, more than McCain spent on his entire presidential campaign, on favorable ads for his health plan. 

Now isn&#039;t that special. 

Now think: if Obama isn&#039;t saving us money, but delivering us like trussed pigs to the slaughterhouse (drug companies, insurance corporations), is he pushing his health plan for US? If not, who benefits? Follow the money, find the motive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honey, you missed something: Obama <i>did</i> get his quid pro quo.</p>
<p>He got Big Pharma to agree to spend $150 million, more than McCain spent on his entire presidential campaign, on favorable ads for his health plan. </p>
<p>Now isn't that special. </p>
<p>Now think: if Obama isn't saving us money, but delivering us like trussed pigs to the slaughterhouse (drug companies, insurance corporations), is he pushing his health plan for US? If not, who benefits? Follow the money, find the motive.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeswideopen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only thing Obama knows is pay to play. the media gave the guy a pass last year, but I didn&#039;t.  I read everything I could get my hands on about the guy, and decided he was all front and nothing else.  empty suit.  biggest con ever perpeptrated on the people, after weapons of mass destruction, the 2000 election, and watergate that is. or, perhaps it is the biggest.  I am certain this guy is a big big big crook and he knows that no one is watching.  that is a lot of power to have.  the media is not watching because they love him and make too much money on him to lose him.  just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only thing Obama knows is pay to play. the media gave the guy a pass last year, but I didn't.  I read everything I could get my hands on about the guy, and decided he was all front and nothing else.  empty suit.  biggest con ever perpeptrated on the people, after weapons of mass destruction, the 2000 election, and watergate that is. or, perhaps it is the biggest.  I am certain this guy is a big big big crook and he knows that no one is watching.  that is a lot of power to have.  the media is not watching because they love him and make too much money on him to lose him.  just sayin'</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg you&#039;re my hero!!

I just got off the phone. My congresswoman Debbie Halvorson D-IL-11 held a &quot;Phone-hall meeting&quot; 

During the call she mentioned the $80 Billion savings atleast 8 times!

Unfortunately, I didn&#039;t get to correct (educate) her during the &quot;phone-hall&quot; ,but I did email your article to her and will give her a copy in person on Saturday when I see her at her signature petition drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg you're my hero!!</p>
<p>I just got off the phone. My congresswoman Debbie Halvorson D-IL-11 held a "Phone-hall meeting" </p>
<p>During the call she mentioned the $80 Billion savings atleast 8 times!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I didn't get to correct (educate) her during the "phone-hall" ,but I did email your article to her and will give her a copy in person on Saturday when I see her at her signature petition drive.</p>
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